Episode 164 is Mike Rubin. Very rarely you hear of someone making EMS a second career. Mike Rubin is one of those rare people that EMS is his second career. In 1995, after 21 years in business, Mike began a second career in EMS. Mike was hired by NY State as a paramedic and instructor at Stony Brook University. In April 2001, he was promoted to Supervisor of Suffolk County Medical Control, a position that allowed him to utilize his EMS, business, systems, teaching and management experience. Mike relocated to Nashville, where he spent six years as a paramedic at the Opryland entertainment complex. Mike began writing for major EMS media, created the EMS version of Trivial Pursuit and produced Down Time, an album of rescue-oriented rock and pop tunes. We talk about his path into EMS, writing for the EMS industry and Trivial Pursuit.